Wednesday, September 26, 2007

The New Commission on Worship Members and Their Congregations

Pr. Asburry pointed out to me the new appointed members of the Commission on Worship, supplying the web address in a previous comment. All the site gives is their name and church membership. But that may reveal much.

One member is from Concordia, San Antonio. They describe their worship this way:

The 6:00 p.m. worship service on Saturday is a blended worship service incorporating hymns as well as more contemporary praise music.

The 8:00 a.m. worship service on Sunday is a meaningful traditional service featuring hymns and some traditional liturgy.

The 9:30 a.m. worship service is a blended worship experience incorporating hymns as well as more contemporary praise music.

The 11:00 a.m. worship service is a vibrant praise service with lead singers, backed by a live praise band.

The 7:00 p.m. worship service on Monday is a blended worship service incorporating hymns as well as more contemporary praise music.
St. John, Ellisville, MO is one of the earliest megachurches in the LCMS. Their worship is described this way:

Traditions: 5:00pm, Saturday, Sanctuary, Ellisville Campus

This service celebrates a sense of reverence and features classic and modern hymns and songs. Children are welcome to worship in this venue or Click here to find out more information about our Children’s Ministry options.

Call to Worship:
This blended form of worship brings together classic elements of worship in a devotional setting.
Children are welcome to worship in this venue.

Full choir, band, drama, video and dynamic teaching are combined to share God’s truth in a relevant style. Click here to find out more information about our Children’s Ministry options.


All ages come together for this band-led, heartfelt worship experience in a casual environment. Children’s Ministry is available for infants through 5th grade. Click here to find out more information about our Children’s Ministry options

And...Outpost Maplewood

At: Schlafley's Bottleworks

St. John takes its band-led, heartfelt worship experience out into the community. Extend the evening by meeting up with friends in the restaurant before or after the service. Children are welcome to worship in this venue.

Did you know that our Outpost Maplewood campus posts a video of the message each week on YouTUBE? Check them out at FREEWEB Follow the link for the weekly message chosen and click "Play All Videos"

Another is from Trinity, Houston TX: they have a "Classic Lutheran," a "Blended" and a "ninethrityone" which is described this way:
"Trinity Lutheran Church has been known for its rich worship history. The ninethirtyone service is a completely different from the style of worship. The ninethirtyone experience will include modern Christian music led by Right Lane Vacant. The worship service will be in a relaxed atmosphere where coffee and cookies are present. Participants will have the option to sit around tables as we work toward building community. The service will also be heavy on video/multimedia with an emphasis on being interactive. Read more."
St. John, Orange, CA. Here's their description of worship services:
Blended Service
9:30 a.m. in the Sanctuary -- This service focuses on the teaching of God’s Word in the context of a simpler liturgical setting. The opening of the service is written with the specific theme of the day in mind; a combination of hymns and praise songs are used in this service. Communion is celebrated on the second and fourth Sundays of the month.

Sundays at 9:30 a.m. - 11a.m. and 6:30p.m. in the Auditorium. Every Sunday the ‘e’ service will continue to host great contemporary worship with the St. John’s Praise Band with relevant and applicable messages from God’s Word. Communion will be celebrated every first and third Sundays of the month. Invite a friend and attend.

Family Service
11 a.m. in the Sanctuary -- This service is very much like the 9:30 a.m. service, but features a Children’s Message as part of the service. Children’s Choirs are scheduled twice a month at this service because of its emphasis on young families. Communion is celebrated on the second and fourth Sundays of the month.

Saturday Service
6:30 p.m. on Saturdays in the Sanctuary -- This service follows the 8 a.m. format and communion schedule. The historic liturgy is featured at this service.

Liturgical Service
8 a.m. in the Sanctuary -- This service follows the historic liturgy of the Church, with some creative changes or substitutions. These changes highlight a season of the Church Year or emphasize a theme for a given Sunday. Holy Communion is celebrated on the first, third, and fifth Sundays of the month.

Light of Life, Indio, CA. Nothing informative online. It's a mission congregation with no reported members or attendance.

Rev. William Utech is also on the Commission. He is on faculty at Concordia Seminary, and was pretty outspoken about his love of contemporary things.

Finally, Rev. Dr. Wismar remains. I don't know much about him. Rev. Vieker remains and the lovely Mrs. Asburry.

This is the new LCMS to be sure.

Lord have mercy on us...


  1. Dan @ Necessary Roughness said...

    It amazes me that those churches who claim to have a traditional service still monkey with the service. If you have a traditional/liturgical service, but then have "creative changes or substitutions", then it's not the historical liturgy of the church.

    Just express your contempt for the basic theology of worship and move on to the UMC, please.

  2. Dixie said...

    You know what I found quite striking...the description of all these services mostly talked about the music. It is as if music style was the most important thing.

    You know what also struck me...two of the three congregations don't even mention the Eucharist. For the Orthodox the Eucharist is the centerpiece of the Liturgy. I think for (at least some) Lutherans, it is the Word...the preaching. I remember in one of my Lay Ministry courses the instructor commented on church sanctuary designs and how the best ones were the old ones where the pulpit was high and center over the altar, because this was more in line with Lutheran theology...that the Word was the centerpiece. (Stemming from the logic that Word and Sacrament really boils down to Word because the Word makes the sacrament, water is just Water without the Word...bread is just bread without the Word, etc., ...something like that.) Now...that isn't what I would think an Evangelical Catholic Lutheran would say but...there are obviously different understandings "out there".

    The word liturgy is used 3 times in all of the descriptions. Once with the modifier "some" and twice in one of the congregations. One congregation's descriptions never even mentioned it.

    I can see how the Evangelical Catholics would find this discouraging.

    Lord have mercy on us all.

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    Lord have mercy on us all.